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Showing posts with label New Subs for RCN. Show all posts
Showing posts with label New Subs for RCN. Show all posts

Tuesday, November 20, 2018

Government Rejects Advice to Replace Victoria-Class Submarines

By: David Pugliese, The Ottawa Citizen 

New submarines won’t be part of the future mix for the Royal Canadian Navy, at least in the foreseeable future.

Several years ago there were some suggestions that a possible replacement for the Victoria-class submarines might be in the works. In 2017 a Senate defence committee recommended the subs be replaced.

The Commons defence committee also recently recommended that the Victoria-class subs, bought used in 1998 from the United Kingdom, be replaced with submarines capable of under-ice capabilities.

But the Liberal government has rejected that recommendation. The recommendation was the only one of the 27 made by the Commons defence committee that was rejected outright in a response delivered to the committee last month.

The committee had recommended that the federal government respond to NATO calls to improve the quality of their naval fleets and underwater surveillance capabilities by starting the process of replacing Victoria-class submarines with new boats that have under-ice capabilities. It also recommended increasing the size of that fleet to enhance Canada’s Arctic and North Atlantic defence preparedness.
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HMCS VICTORIA sails past the Japanese Ship ISE as she arrives in Pearl Harbor on July 1, 2014 to take part in Exercise Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC).
But the Liberal government pointed out in its response that it is in the midst of the most intensive and comprehensive fleet modernization and renewal in the peacetime history of the Royal Canadian Navy. Canada is recapitalizing and increasing the size of its surface fleet through investments in 15 Canadian Surface Combatants, two Joint Support Ships, and five to six Arctic and Offshore Patrol Ships, it added. “The government has also committed to modernizing the four Victoria-class submarines to include weapons and sensor upgrades that will enhance the ability of the submarines to conduct Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) and deliver necessary improvements of platform and combat systems to extend operational capability to the mid-2030’s,” the government response noted.

Canada is also engaged in the re-building of the anti-submarine warfare capabilities of the fleet through the introduction of technologies, sensors and weapons while preparing to transition to the fleet of the future, it added. “As part of the NATO S&T Organization, Canada is participating in the Maritime Unmanned Systems S&T Pre-Feasibility Studies that focus on ASW and naval mine warfare capabilities with Allied nations that have the same capability targets,” the government stated. “In addition to increasing existing platform capabilities, the RCN is also in the process of re-vitalising individual and collective ASW training and advancing distributed mission training and synthetic training environments.”

Last year Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan praised the capability submarines provide Canada. “No other platform in the Canadian Armed Forces can do what a submarine can do,” Sajjan said. “No other platform has the stealth, the intelligence-gathering, surveillance and reconnaissance capability and the deterrence to potential adversaries that a sub does.”

Upgrading the Victoria-class subs is more “prudent” than buying new subs, Sajjan said at the time.

Without upgrades, the first of the submarines will reach the end of its life in 2022, according to documents obtained last year through Access to Information by the Canadian Press. The last of the boats would be retired in 2027.

Monday, June 20, 2016

To Maintain Subs or Not? That is the Question for the RCN

Personal Opinion:

David Pugliese, who writes for Post Media in both the Ottawa Citizen and National Post (and also publishes at Defence Watch and DefenceNews recently posted the following about the Royal Canadian Navy's Victoria-Class submarines:


Here are my thoughts on the matter:

Firstly I honestly believe the Royal Canadian Navy needs to maintain a submarine fleet. Canada possesses the longest coastlines in the world when you take into consideration the thawing Arctic region; which itself is larger than continental Europe. The question then becomes should another $1.5-$3 Billion be spent on upgrading the Victoria-Class submarines to operate until 2030? The Simple answer is No.

What where once the Upholder-Class submarines - renamed Victoria-Class on the Canadian acquisition were never fully completed or updated before they where mothballed by the British Royal Navy in 1994. (The UK moved to a complete Nuclear-powered submarine fleet strategy) A total of 9 Upholder-class submarines were to be built in 3 phases. The 4 that were built were part of phase 1 and 2.

Phase 3 would have included more modern equipment and advancements in the design with any flaws that had become apparent in the earlier generations. This never occurred as the British Ministry of Defence scrapped the Upholder-class submarines before Phase 3. The 4 completed subs then sat mothballed between 1994 and 1998 when the Canadian government announced its $740 million acquisition of the 4 subs.

When you consider the cost of a new submarine today, $740 million for 4 is a bargain - and the government touted that in 1998 - despite the fact that nearly $1 billion would need to be spent before they entered service in the RCN between 2003 and 2015.

To be fair - few expected that the four Victoria-Class subs would need as much work as they ended-up needing.

In the current Defence Review, the government is looking at if it is worth it to keep the Victoria-Class submarines operating, especially as they will need an estimated $3 billion in upgrades to keep the fleet operational until the 2030s. Personally I think this is far too much money. The RCN has already spent close to $2 billion on the Victoria-Class subs. It is time to prepare for their retirement.

Instead of investing $3 billion in retrofitting these subs; look at purchasing new ones.

Australia recently announced a $20 billion program for 12 new Type 216 diesel submarines to be built in Germany. I am not saying Canada needs 12 submarines, but a new fleet of 4 to 6 would be extreamly useful. And $20 Billion? No way - the Type 216 is still a design and in the works; which shows why is costs are above $1 billion per submarine.

The model I am currently looking at is the German Type 212 submarine; currently being operated by Germany and Italy. At an initial cost of 370 million; if allowed to be built, could cost Canada $2 billion to build 4 new submarines, and $3 billion for 6.

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Submarine Typ 212 in Docks at HDW/Kiel (Germany).
The German Type 212 class, also Italian Todaro class, is a highly advanced design of non-nuclear submarine developed byHowaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft AG (HDW) for the German and Italian Navies. It features diesel propulsion and an additional air-independent propulsion (AIP) system using Siemens proton exchange membrane (PEM) compressed hydrogen fuel cells. The submarine can operate at high speed on diesel power or switch to the AIP system for silent slow cruising, staying submerged for up to three weeks without surfacing and with no exhaust heat. The system is also said to be vibration-free, extremely quiet and virtually undetectable.

The Type 212 is a much more advanced submarine than the Victoria-Class which the RCN currently operates, and with the ability to stay submerged for 3 weeks, it could easily operate in the Arctic.

It is time to stay looking for a new fleet of Canadian submarines instead of investing the total value of a new fleet into ones designed in the 1980s and constructed in the early 1990s.